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is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert jeffrey goldberg joins us on the escalating violence across the region in a scoop that some people missed that he had. we'll expose it here. plus an msnbc news exclusive. afghan president hamid karzai blames the u.s. and nato forces for what he says is growing insecurity in his country. what he told our own reporter about the future of the relationship between the two countries and he weighs in on the petraeus scandal. we'll be live in kabul next. but first a look ahead at the president's schedule. we have a photo op today on the fiscal cliff. he heads over to fa
is there an exit strategy for assad? though the u.n. secretary of general said yesterday the world should not let him seek asylum senator kerry told andrea mitchell he disagrees. >> it's in our security interests to be able to get a transition that is controlled and that is negotiated and that is orderly because the alternative to that is you could have 200,000, 500,000 people killed. >> if syria crosses the red line in chemical weapons what will the u.s. do? middle east expert...
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there's talk that russia has them and assad might use them. do you believe any of that? do we really know when you think back to iraq, do we really know what chemical weapons syria has and whether assad would use them or if they could come into the hands of the al qaeda-linked groups or rebels that could use them? >> my guess is they do have some. historically, this has always been the view. who knows how many and how effective they are? the most important thing to remember about chemical weapons is they're not actually that effective. so part of what -- the reason regimes like assad and saddam hussein stockpile them is it scared people. it made them think, you know, we can poison whole villages. the truth is the gas disperses very fast. it's not very effective. so i would guess -- my gut is the syrian regime will not use it. i think that president obama's very stern warning to them probably helped in that regard. so i think that while we should be cautious, it's not clear they're going to use them. >> senator john mccain is trying to get on the senate foreign relations
there's talk that russia has them and assad might use them. do you believe any of that? do we really know when you think back to iraq, do we really know what chemical weapons syria has and whether assad would use them or if they could come into the hands of the al qaeda-linked groups or rebels that could use them? >> my guess is they do have some. historically, this has always been the view. who knows how many and how effective they are? the most important thing to remember about chemical...
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but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if assad loses control. >> it is absolutely important that terrorist groups not obtain possession of those weapons, and then try to use them against any other country or any other group within syria. >> reporter: there are military operations, but privately, the u.s. military officials concede that the pre-emptive strike could be risky and could even spread the deadly sarin gas, if he were to launch the weapons, an attack could be likely against him and his officials. >> andrea mitchell, thank you, here we go in egypt, where the new president who replaced the old president, hosni mubarak, after he was deposed, tri
but the russians insisted no pictures could be taken show low them discussing assad critics want the administration to >> reporter: the u.s. critics want the administration to consider military options. >> we do know absolutely that these weapons have been readied for use by bashar al-assad's aircraft. again, i urge, we urge the president of the united states to make whatever military preparations are necessary. >> reporter: another military imperative, securing the weapons if...
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and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the desperate bashar al-assad, may use chemical weapons against the world or against his own people. >> the whole world is watching, the whole world is watching very closely. and the president of the united states has made very clear that there will be consequences. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence as first reported by nbc news indicates that syria's military has loaded the precursor bombs, even a tiny bomb can attack the nervous system, killing within seconds or minutes, most of syria's sophisticated weapons are from russia, syria's most powerful ally. but today, they were so alarmed about the chemical thre
and president assad staying in power, could use such chemical weapons against his own people. from the defense secretary on down, the world be reacted to the news today. we begin with our chief foreign correspondent affairs, andrea mitchell. >> reporter: they warned today that the chemical threat is imminent, from a syrian regime that seems to be losing control. >> reporter: with the war turning against the syrian regime, fears rose of a nightmare scenario that once cornered the...
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on top of all of this now, there must be deep fear that the assad regime might use chemical warfare against its own people, serin gas, which is so deadly. how concerned? how fearful are the rebels, the civilian population, in northern syria where you are. >> reporter: as fearful as one could possibly manage them to be. this is a population that has no way to protect itself from bullets and bombs. one rebel commander we were talking to has no doubt in his mind that he would, in fact, use this type of weapon ri. he said if you look at the history of this uprising, the asad regime moved onto rockets and then onto air strikes. the next step, as this rebel force is really strengthening its strangle hold on this syrian government is going to be to employ chemical weapons to deliver that final and deadly blow. >> in northern syria for us on the scene, aura, be careful. thanks so much. here in washington, a massive show of force on capital hill. up next, the message some senior citizens are sending lawmakers looming the fiscal cliff. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male
on top of all of this now, there must be deep fear that the assad regime might use chemical warfare against its own people, serin gas, which is so deadly. how concerned? how fearful are the rebels, the civilian population, in northern syria where you are. >> reporter: as fearful as one could possibly manage them to be. this is a population that has no way to protect itself from bullets and bombs. one rebel commander we were talking to has no doubt in his mind that he would, in fact, use...
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would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the government knows more than we do but outside, it's not quite clear exactly what they were trying to get at here. obviously, stop the use of chemical weapons, but who was going to use them? what their intent was, we still don't know that outside. >> right. and certainly he i would imagine how secure they are considering that rebels have links to al qaeda or extremist groups. there's lots of risks. and sources are saying that his mood may be at this point, look, i'm going to end up being killed anyway. if i try to leave, i'm going to be killed by my own people and the
would bashar al assad use them? >> it's an important question. i'm wondering, erin, whether this was a regime decision. you know, this activity surrounding chemical weapons, or they saw a local commander, perhaps, doing some things. and the international community wanted to send a message to everybody, including the assad regime, saying that one of your local commanders may be getting out of line here and may use these weapons. you better crack down on it. so it's not quite clear. the...
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that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters, they are taking on syrian forces literally house to house in the country's largest city. that is aleppo, and that is where we find our arwa damon today. >> reporter: for two months the streets here have been a war zone. part of a bigger battle for control of aleppo, syria's largest city. this father of four is one of the rebel fighters here. this is our country, our homes that are being destroyed, he tells us. he used to sell thread. now he runs logistics for his unit. so what he is explaining to us is that this was street to street fighting, and it took his unit quite some time to advance and righ
that is after now confirmed reports emerging from syria that forces loyal to president bashir al assad are preparing bombs with chemical weapons. syrian soldiers fighting with rebels for control over the outskirts of damascus. now, witnesses tell cnn that 30 people were killed today in street battles across syria. we're also learning about a car bombing in the city of homs and a horrible, horrible discovery. dozens of bodies believed to be victims of a massacre. the same time rebel fighters,...
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wants to take down assad but at the same time cutting the rebels off at the knee. it doesn't make sense. >> the group should be considered a terrorist organization based on the fact that there are allegedly connections with al qaeda in iraq. the long term after the regime does fall, i do think it will provide an opening since most of the rebels, while respect nusra doesn't believe in their world view, and therefore the more secular and liberal and moderate islamists within the opposition might utilize this as an opportunity as well as the united states, to distance themselves but in the short to medium term, especially prior to the collapse of the regime, i don't see how to this will help out. >> reporter: they are popular with some syrian fighters who see al nusra behind the radical attack on army headquarters as badly maligned heros. extremists bombing blamed for, as one says, the work of regime loyalists trying to tar al nusr ach's reputation. when america wants to put them on the terror list it should differentiate between those who fight for and defend the syr
wants to take down assad but at the same time cutting the rebels off at the knee. it doesn't make sense. >> the group should be considered a terrorist organization based on the fact that there are allegedly connections with al qaeda in iraq. the long term after the regime does fall, i do think it will provide an opening since most of the rebels, while respect nusra doesn't believe in their world view, and therefore the more secular and liberal and moderate islamists within the opposition...
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why are they siding with assad with this? >> the russians are siding with assad. they are trying to create the friendship. they are still trying to create a balance against the united states. it's like who is siding with who at this point. they have a vested interest in the middle east. that's why they are working with him and also let's remember the iranians and russians are working together. they have a relationship. they want to assist us because assad is working with the iranians he is an ally of the iranians and he is defending that philosophy. >> walid if assad gets to the point where he either takes asylum or let's assume he uses the chemical weapons what will happen then. >> first of all depending on the scenario he may use that weapon if he is pushed to as we jewsed ea -- discussed earlier. if he is in damascus and they come to get him he may use it so he can exit and go to the western part of assyria. there's another scenario that may be of great concern. if he and the iranians are coordinating aattack in our interest as a region in a whole to stop the n
why are they siding with assad with this? >> the russians are siding with assad. they are trying to create the friendship. they are still trying to create a balance against the united states. it's like who is siding with who at this point. they have a vested interest in the middle east. that's why they are working with him and also let's remember the iranians and russians are working together. they have a relationship. they want to assist us because assad is working with the iranians he...
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now their most powerful ally says assad might be losing. they're not alone. head of nato today said this. irng the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now it is only a question of time. but those people, they're the politicians, want to see the real side of syria's civil war, the streets where people are caught up in the crossfire dying there. what you're about to say you can only see here on cnn. this is a teenager risking his life to save a stranger. here's arwa damon. >> reporter: a fighter slithering across the street, his body hugging the cold pavement. yards away a woman lies motionless. she's been shot by a sniper. her rescuer is not a relative nor a neighbor. he's never met her. he's just 17. he knew he had to save the woman or die trying. when we met him later he tells us we had a feeling that she was still alive. we wanted to save her, to get her to a hospital. as he crawls closer, he can see her hand, her fingers shaking. cover him, cover him someone shouts. other fighters lay down cover fire. abdullah quickly ties the hose to her l
now their most powerful ally says assad might be losing. they're not alone. head of nato today said this. irng the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now it is only a question of time. but those people, they're the politicians, want to see the real side of syria's civil war, the streets where people are caught up in the crossfire dying there. what you're about to say you can only see here on cnn. this is a teenager risking his life to save a stranger. here's arwa damon....
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they are pushing on to president bashar al assad's military bases surrounding his military bases. there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. the rebels don't want one. they say the only solution they will accept is a military victory. >>> that amazes me the places that richard engel gets in, the stories he brings us. russia says they're going to remain in support of president assad despite doubt that arose last week after they met privately with secretary of state hillary clinton on the issue of chemical weapons. >>> and to the crisis and the mess in cairo. egypt's president more morsi is asking them to stay there. more syrians are refusing to cancel a rev 49er render. morsi did cancel the rally. it did little to bring calm to the streets of cairo. the washington post wrote about the muted response from the united states through all of this saying, quote, the administration's rejoineder is that this isn't about america. egyptians and other arabs are writing their history now, and they will have to live with the consequences. moreover, the last thing secular protesters need is
they are pushing on to president bashar al assad's military bases surrounding his military bases. there's no hope here for a diplomatic solution. the rebels don't want one. they say the only solution they will accept is a military victory. >>> that amazes me the places that richard engel gets in, the stories he brings us. russia says they're going to remain in support of president assad despite doubt that arose last week after they met privately with secretary of state hillary clinton...
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population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> the obama administration also said today it is formally designated the al nusra rebel group. a major gas line exploded in west virginia. there are reports of multiple fires. a portion of interstate 77 had to be shut down. no word on any injuries or the cause of the blast. >>> anderson, it's a good week if meteors are your thing. this one fell over edmondton alberta in 2008. the comet could produce a meteor shower anytime between now and friday. this is the first year the earth's orbit will pass the comet's debris field. you can get a glimpse of the meteor shower expected to peak on thursday night. that's my gift to you. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back. i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than
population that we consider them the legitimate representative of the syrian people in opposition to the assad regime. >> the obama administration also said today it is formally designated the al nusra rebel group. a major gas line exploded in west virginia. there are reports of multiple fires. a portion of interstate 77 had to be shut down. no word on any injuries or the cause of the blast. >>> anderson, it's a good week if meteors are your thing. this one fell over edmondton...
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can assad be stopped from using weapons of mass destruction. but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. he has no public events. no public events at all today. he's going to sign a bill but that is close to cameras but no jobs report event. i'm told that will start becoming a regular thing. you won't see the president every single friday jobs report. but we will see the vice president. all my daughter wants this year is everything barbie. have you seen our new barbie section? it's filled with all the new dolls that just arrived. ♪ it's a barbie wonderland! [ allen ] honey? here, ken. allen. ♪ [ gasps ] it's a barbie wonderland... hey, who's ken? [ male announcer ] get more barbie than ever before this holiday season. like the fashion design plates, color stylin' hair, and spa to fab barbie dolls that just arrived. all backed by our low price guarantee. from america's gift headquarters. walmart. >>> it is time for the united states and our allies to make it clear to assad that this is -- >> there will be drastic consequences
can assad be stopped from using weapons of mass destruction. but first, a look ahead at the president's schedule today. he has no public events. no public events at all today. he's going to sign a bill but that is close to cameras but no jobs report event. i'm told that will start becoming a regular thing. you won't see the president every single friday jobs report. but we will see the vice president. all my daughter wants this year is everything barbie. have you seen our new barbie section?...
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is assad pushing the pan being button? >> this 1945. he's in the bunker, throwing everything he can at the point. it's a desperate move on his part because the rebels are closing in. it was those very scud missiles that saddam hussein lobbed at israel and there was great fear that those scud missiles are capable -- i said capable -- of having weapons of mass destruction on their war head. >> we don't really know. we're assuming know but it's possible these could be housing chemical weapons? >> there had already been reports, larry, earlier this week. that's why secretary of defense panetta and the president of the united states warned assad publicly about using wmd or chemical weapons against his own people. but let's remember he has more or less given control over a lot of his wmd stock piles, of which it is a huge amount to potentially hezbollah or irani revolutionary guards who are forces for the desperate forces that fight for the survival of the regime. >> let's assume you're right and he's transferring these weapons and missiles.
is assad pushing the pan being button? >> this 1945. he's in the bunker, throwing everything he can at the point. it's a desperate move on his part because the rebels are closing in. it was those very scud missiles that saddam hussein lobbed at israel and there was great fear that those scud missiles are capable -- i said capable -- of having weapons of mass destruction on their war head. >> we don't really know. we're assuming know but it's possible these could be housing chemical...
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now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge tracked him down and he is "outfront" next. it's easy to get started; i can help you with the paperwork. um...this green line just appeared on my floor. yeah, that's fidelity helping you reach your financial goals. could you hold on a second? it's your money. roll over your old 401(k) into a fidelity ira and take control of your personal economy. this is going to be helpful. call or come in today. fidelity investments. turn here. yeah we both relieve coughs, sneezing, aches, fevers. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symp
now, the assess smt that assad isn't ready to go. the u.s. says it hasn't seen anything in term of concrete offers. maybe assad's commanders think the boss is getting cold feet and might dessert them. >> next, 57% of americans say they'd vote for hillary clinton in four years. think about how cent elections have gone. that would be an incredible mandate. what does she say about iran? >>> and john mcafee still on the run after his neighbor was found murdered. martin savidge...
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what type of regime will replace assad. >> we can never tell. neverwe can never tell. they have pulverized, we know that. that has happened in front of our eyes. we know the muslim brotherhood will have a piece of action. we know those who have been pushed to the grave will want a piece of the new syria. >> eliot: you think we've been delinquent in our response. >> had we intervened early had the cavalry come early there would have been no missiles needed put now we declare that the syrian people are saying who are you to make these judgments about us? where have you been and why haven't you aided this rebellion. the rebels have fought and died and suffered alone. i go quite a bit every now and then to the syrian-turkey border and talk to refugees in the refugee camp, the faith in the united states is viscerated. >> eliot: to move south where the revolution is a year or two years ahead chronologicalcally if not in terms of theory, what do you see emerging in cairo in egypt where the constitutional referendum will occur shortly. will it pass? and what is your view of th
what type of regime will replace assad. >> we can never tell. neverwe can never tell. they have pulverized, we know that. that has happened in front of our eyes. we know the muslim brotherhood will have a piece of action. we know those who have been pushed to the grave will want a piece of the new syria. >> eliot: you think we've been delinquent in our response. >> had we intervened early had the cavalry come early there would have been no missiles needed put now we declare...
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monday president obama issued awarning to assad. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> i can't wait to see what that is going to be. given the propensity the u.n. can get it fixed if he does use chemical weapons we will send him a letter. if that doesn't work a strongly worded letter and if that doesn't work, we will send him a really strongly worded letter with all of the words in bold type. you know the tragedy is the president promised us he understood people in these muslim countries and they would listen to him in a way they didn't listen to previous presidents. how is that working out for us? it is not working out at all. egypt is a mess, syria is in civil war between 40 and 50,000 people killed by its own government. problems in tunisia. problems still remaining in afghanistan and that corrupt government. i am still waiting to find out what i
monday president obama issued awarning to assad. >> i want to make it absolutely clear to assad and those under his command the world is watching. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally unacceptable. if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons there will be consequences and you will be held accountable. >> i can't wait to see what that is going to be. given the propensity the u.n. can get it fixed if he does use chemical weapons we will send him a letter. if...
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troops loyal to bashar al assad reach into their arsenal for more deadly weapons. even scud missile. officials say assad has between 3 and 400 of those short and medium-range missiles in his stockpile. the regime forces launched a scud from the suburbs of damascus. >> if this proves to be true, it's another indication of the deparagraph tea of assad and his crohn knees. >> once more, the forces last week started using what's called barrel bombs. >> it contains flammable materials. it's sort of a napalm and it's very, very concerning and indicative of the regime's brutality. >> human rights groups say it causes extremely painful burns, often down to the bone, burns that are often hard to treat. this comes after signs that an increasingly desperate assad is moving closer to using chemical weapons. chemical weapons plus scud missiles would be a lethal combination. >> if you were to marry up a chem kabl warhead on to the scud, you now have an area denial weapon system which is very nasty. it affects everybody. it doesn't discriminate from friend or foe. >> one means of
troops loyal to bashar al assad reach into their arsenal for more deadly weapons. even scud missile. officials say assad has between 3 and 400 of those short and medium-range missiles in his stockpile. the regime forces launched a scud from the suburbs of damascus. >> if this proves to be true, it's another indication of the deparagraph tea of assad and his crohn knees. >> once more, the forces last week started using what's called barrel bombs. >> it contains flammable...
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will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military. will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist operations. we've seen those groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which we understand there are in the neighborhood of four dozen. >> yeah, and, noah, how much do you think there is confidence that we know what really is going on, and how widespread this stuff is? because you're right. in the chaos of a cat chrissism over there if it comes down the final battle it seems to me we could have a very similar circumstance to what we had in iraq and afghanistan, where we just don't know where things went. >> yeah, i think there's a fair degree of confidence right now about where this precursor mixing activity happens. but if things get really chaotic, i think all bets are off. the u.s. military has floated a
will it be the remaining assad, pro-assad military. will be it the rebel and opposition groups? do they have the capability? and absolutely worse is the extremist operations. we've seen those groups inside syria, including al qaeda from iraq. so there are many very frightening possibilities, which is why i think our barbara starr has been talking about the u.s. military has -- is relooking at their plans for securing the chemical weapon sites of which we understand there are in the neighborhood...
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we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but keep in mind this -- because it's odorless and tasteless and very hard to detect, you have to get out of area and also because you can get poisoned again by ingestion and inhaling or simply touching it, it can be on the clothes, the clothes could be a vehicle so you get out of the way. you take off your clothes or anything that may have been exposed to it, soap and water, rinse your body as much as also. one thing is it's a heavier gas compared to that what's in that area and lingers closer to the ground and getting to higher elevation can help. it sounds simplistic but short of a medic
we also don't know at what point would the assad regime resort the using sarin. it's my hypothesis they will if they're starting to get slaughtered. it could happen. they will use it. >> sanjay, for people who are at risk, i mean in areas where the assad regime could or might use them or another group, what can they do to protect themselves? is there something to do to prepro tekt yourself? >> they presumably don't have access to the medication. you have to get out of the area but...
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officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara, thank you. i want to bring in jill dougherty from ireland where the secretary of state hillary clinton held a news conference. keep in mind, russia here, really, resisted the efforts to speed the departure of the syrian leader al assad. so jill, do we know, was syria's chemical weapons, was that discussed here in this conversation between the secretary of state and the foreign minister of russia? >> reporter: well, yes. initially. there are actually two meetings between secretary clinton and the foreign minister. and you know, russia actually does -- this is one area wher
officials say they have long been planning for the day after assad. such as training jordanian troops to provide security but for now they just hope syrian troops will keep those chemical weapons under lock and key. but how loyal assad forces remain and for how long may be a measure of the regime's desperation. u.s. military officials believe the syrian forces are losing morale, running short on supplies but for now the killing continues. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> barbara,...
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the president's already lost credibility by first telling assad it would be a red line to move the stock piles out of his arsenal. now it's a red line to use them. i'm just not sure that we're prepared to do what would be necessary to stop the first use, but what we can do and where our greatest risk is is making sure that the chemical weapons don't lealeavesyria in terrorist hand. >> greta: how do we do that? >> at this point since we're now losing confidence and we know where the wrep weapons are, we e to, number one, get commitments from the opposition that if they take power, they'll destroy the chemical weapons. i think we have to be prepared as we may well be to go in with special operations forces and air power to destroy the chemical weapons before they're used. that's very risky for our people and for the syrians as well. >> greta: ambassador, thank you, sir. >> thank you. >> greta: now to the shocking and disturbing news today out of england. just after prince william's wife kate's stay at a london hospital, one of the hospital nurses is found dead. a suspected suicide. now, sh
the president's already lost credibility by first telling assad it would be a red line to move the stock piles out of his arsenal. now it's a red line to use them. i'm just not sure that we're prepared to do what would be necessary to stop the first use, but what we can do and where our greatest risk is is making sure that the chemical weapons don't lealeavesyria in terrorist hand. >> greta: how do we do that? >> at this point since we're now losing confidence and we know where the...
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only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of what the syrians are doing. it's a last ditch effort. i don't think anyone in syria believes it. there's zero chance that the united states is doipg anything like this. it's always clear it's a reaction to president obama's very tough warning to the syrians. that they shouldn't even think about using chemical weapons. >> i'm curious only because there is this report now that united states is employed military contractors on the ground. i think in turkey and jordan, but also inside syria, to help opposition members. should they get their hands on some of these chemical weapons to a, secur
only the government, assad's administration has sent a couple of letters to the u.n. suggesting this is all a big plot by the u.s. to get those weapons into the hands of opposition members and then blame the syrians. does this seem logical or like a reach? >> i think it's part of a strategy that the assad regime has decided upon, which is that america is the cause of this. that there is an internal group of terrorists supported by the united states and saudi arabia, so this is part of...
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said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details, but sufficient to say that the threat is real. the warning is real. we have made it crystal clear, president obama, secretary clinton, be have made it absolutely clear as have other countries this is a red line and i believe president assad has received that message from several quarters. the question now is, you know, will someone else grab on to them? there's certainly risks where we are with respect to syria. i would not close the door completely to some kind of an agreement whereby president assad could move to another country and the reason i say that is, that the dangers of a
said today that he does not think that countries ought to offer exile to assad. where are we heading here? is the regime, first of all we understand that the u.s. is going to recognize the occupation -- opposition next week. is the regime close to teetering and do we have to worry about the chemical weapons? >> yes. the answer is secretary clinton is right on. we do have to worry about them. i had a briefing this morning regarding this. obviously i can't release any classified details,...
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and now today we're seeing the first clear time that russia thinks assad is over. his days are perhaps numbered. and that will have huge ramifications on those inside the syrian regime worried themselves, seeing themselves surrounded by rebels. >> nick payton walsh, thank you. and now we want to show issue dramatic video obtained by cnn out of the conflict in syria. here it is. it shows a young rebel fighter, look at that, just 17 years old, crawling on his belly through a hail of bullet ls to rescue a woman who had been shoot. the video was given cnn. he pulls her out of harm's way. trf i sa >> translator: i said to myself if i die, it's god's will that i die next to this woman. >> despite the young man's brave efforts, the woman later died from her wounds. in an interview, the young fighter said, quote, i'm not a hero, i'm just like anyone else. what a long strange trip it has been for john mcafee. now his latest stop is miami. why there? we'll talk about it. tonight our guest, thomas sargent. nobel laureate in economics, and one of the most cited economists in t
and now today we're seeing the first clear time that russia thinks assad is over. his days are perhaps numbered. and that will have huge ramifications on those inside the syrian regime worried themselves, seeing themselves surrounded by rebels. >> nick payton walsh, thank you. and now we want to show issue dramatic video obtained by cnn out of the conflict in syria. here it is. it shows a young rebel fighter, look at that, just 17 years old, crawling on his belly through a hail of bullet...
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i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend on what type of agent is at that site. nonetheless. the second problem we have, martha, and the one that concerns us quite dramatically. some of these weapons fall into the hands of radical groups that would use them as terrorist weapons later on. that would mean at some point regardless of how this conflict will end. we would have to secure those chemical sites. we wouldn't do it by ourselves buff it would be a regional approach to secure those sites. megyn: so many concerns on so many levels. general keane, thank you, good to talk to you this morning. bill: t
i don't think they are walking away from assad anytime soon. megyn: if these chemical weapons are used, what do you expect the u.s. reaction to be? >> i would hope they would do something about it before they are used. and our intelligence service would see the weap weapons for deployment and the readiness to use them. and those sites being prepared, the israelis would want to bomb those sites. it depend on where the site is and its approximate i amity to population centers and it depend...
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defense secretary leon panetta is saying there is no new intelligence indicating assad's regime is moving any closer to using the chemical weapons that had so many people on edge just earlier this week. >>> tonight, we are also learning that an american has been held in north korea for more than a month now. according to south korean newspapers, kenneth bayh is a tour operator who was detained after someone on his tour was found carrying a computer hard disk with sensitive information. a u.s. official told us there are no signs that bayh has been mistreated. the swedish government which acts as the protecting power for the u.s. in north korea is reportedly working to help get him released. >>> an australian radio station is donating money to a fund that was set up for the nurse's family, that nurse who apparently committed suicide in england. they say they will donate at least $520,000 to the nurse's family. two deejays at the station called the hospital where prince william's wife was being treated and pretended to be queen elizabeth and prince charles. the nurse who first answered the c
defense secretary leon panetta is saying there is no new intelligence indicating assad's regime is moving any closer to using the chemical weapons that had so many people on edge just earlier this week. >>> tonight, we are also learning that an american has been held in north korea for more than a month now. according to south korean newspapers, kenneth bayh is a tour operator who was detained after someone on his tour was found carrying a computer hard disk with sensitive information....
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al assad is not the representative of the syrian people. the u.s. and other than western countries have called on bashar al assad to step down. concretely it is a diplomatic move. it was expected. what it doesn't change and this is what the rebels and the opposition want is whether or not they get more money and more arms. they're saying in their meeting with the friends of morocco group, friends of syria group in morocco right now. they say recognition is fine, but we want weapons and more money. right now they're not getting it from the west. >> the u.s. is not give them either one of those things. do they completely sever ties with assad? how does that relationship change, if at all? >> that relationship has been essentially marabund for the last several months. there mab no ambassador there are and they're sanctions impose on the regime and there's no polical relationship with the regime of al assad with the united states. it doesn't change anything on that level. that means we're inching closer and closer to this government in exile, if you wil
al assad is not the representative of the syrian people. the u.s. and other than western countries have called on bashar al assad to step down. concretely it is a diplomatic move. it was expected. what it doesn't change and this is what the rebels and the opposition want is whether or not they get more money and more arms. they're saying in their meeting with the friends of morocco group, friends of syria group in morocco right now. they say recognition is fine, but we want weapons and more...
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the foreign minster here to the right of president assad, he told state-run media that assad's government is losing control of more of syria. here's a quote "we need to look the facts in the eye and unfortunately we cannot exclude a victory by the opposition." russia was 1 of the votes that kept him from acting against assad. we heard this from native secretary general. >> i think the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now is only a question of time. >> how significant is this here? hello to you. we can talk about possible low assad leaving syria. now do you think that might be more serious? >> no. the question is how significant is the deputy foreign minster and my answer is very significant. this is a high level kremlin official saying russia is syria's most important friend. they are fulfilling military contract and blocking resolutions. it is publicly saying you read part of the quote thatty we must face the facts. then the deputy foreign minster added an opposition victory cannot be excluded. let's put it into context. they are not saying assad should step down and s
the foreign minster here to the right of president assad, he told state-run media that assad's government is losing control of more of syria. here's a quote "we need to look the facts in the eye and unfortunately we cannot exclude a victory by the opposition." russia was 1 of the votes that kept him from acting against assad. we heard this from native secretary general. >> i think the regime in damascus is approaching collapse. i think now is only a question of time. >>...
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. >> how likely is is it that assad will give that order? >> the government was forced to close the airport because of fighting near, it took down the entire internet. his country is no longer just beleaguered, it is besieged. he can last a while longer but he is in trouble. if he uses chemical weapons, that is a point at which the international community will no longer sit at a distance in dealing with this regime. i think he may know that. weighing the alternatives, it may be an instrument he might think will keep him in power but it could provoke and accelerate his denies. >> would the russians abandon him? >> the russian position in supporting the assad regime and calling for some sort of negotiations with the administration that would keep assad around have been his mainstay and the russian position appears to be fluctuating a little, the fact that vladimir putin has been talking to the president of turkey, the prime minister of turkey, about how they can find some outcome and not see the endless bloodshed that has cost 40,000 lives so
. >> how likely is is it that assad will give that order? >> the government was forced to close the airport because of fighting near, it took down the entire internet. his country is no longer just beleaguered, it is besieged. he can last a while longer but he is in trouble. if he uses chemical weapons, that is a point at which the international community will no longer sit at a distance in dealing with this regime. i think he may know that. weighing the alternatives, it may be an...
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. >>> in syria, rebel commanders are hoping to improve the unity in bringing down president assad's regime by creating a joint leadership. the new group consists of a 30-member elected council and in a move that could mean support from the west, two of the most extreme fighting groups in syria were not invited to the meeting in turkey. . >>> and now to fox 5 follow-up. pressure is mounting in london for two australian radio hosts to be removed from the air, this after a nurse who was tricked by the hosts' prank call committed suicide. jacintha saldanha was found near the hospital on friday. friends and family believe it was from stress of the call. the station's chief executive says while they are devastated about the news, they did nothing, quote, illegal. >> this is a tragic event. these people are human beings. we are all affected by this. there is no straightforward answer to your question. we will make sure that their well-being is the priority for us. >> the duke and duchess of cambridge say they are, quote, deeply saddened about the nurse's death. a palace spokesman said there were
. >>> in syria, rebel commanders are hoping to improve the unity in bringing down president assad's regime by creating a joint leadership. the new group consists of a 30-member elected council and in a move that could mean support from the west, two of the most extreme fighting groups in syria were not invited to the meeting in turkey. . >>> and now to fox 5 follow-up. pressure is mounting in london for two australian radio hosts to be removed from the air, this after a nurse...
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to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >> reporter: they're incredibly secretive. it's very difficult to actually get access to their leadership. we have been trying that. when you speak with the other fighting units, they have enormous respect for the al nusri front's capabilities because their fighters are deemed to be the most professional, the most dedicated. they're often on the deadliest and most dangerous front lines. even amongst ordinary activists who most certainly do not support al nusri's ideology, that same level of respect is echoed with people believing that, were it not for the presence of the al nusri front, the
to try to be sure they have some kind of voice in the post-assad world. many think inevitabfvitableably president assad will fall. >> what deeply concerns u.s. officials is a group like the al nusri group getting their hands on some of those chemical weapons stockpiles in syria. >>> our senior international correspondent arwa damon is on the ground inside syria. she has more on the al nusri front. the group declared a terrorist organization by the obama administration. >>...
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the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looking to apply additional pressure on at a conference next week. the regime insists they would not use weapons against its people. >> a natural gas tanker arrived in japan today becoming the first vessel to successfully test a new trade route through arctic waters. it opened up due to shrinking ice. it shaved nearly three weeks of its time. in september researchers of nasa announced the coverage retreated to its lowest level since recoffereds began in 1979. the route is open four months of the year. >> put down the cell phone and the sandwich if you are in south dakota. they report that there is a top new ban on distracted banning. it makes texting while drivers is a primary offense but you can get that ticket if you are eating, rearding the paper, or putting on make-up while driving. >> would you pay for cough sfee with plastic or cash? now you have the option to pay with steel. >> you're going to hear about that at starbucks. that story comi
the big concern remains an increasely desperate assad regime will turn to chemical weapons as rebel fighting rages on. the u.s. and its partners are looking to apply additional pressure on at a conference next week. the regime insists they would not use weapons against its people. >> a natural gas tanker arrived in japan today becoming the first vessel to successfully test a new trade route through arctic waters. it opened up due to shrinking ice. it shaved nearly three weeks of its time....
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suggests that he may be planning to provide some major military hardware to those who are fighti ining assad? >> this is a necessary first step towards that. it's an incremental development and one that was not unexpected to occur. it doesn't do anything by itself. but it seems to be heading that that direction as a political matter at least. i think it removes the accusation that the president's leading from behind. because he has now at least caught up with the european allies. so it doesn't really change anything by itself. you could see the direction it's moving in. >> absolutely. thank you both, gentlemen. >>> much more ahead, but first hampton pierson has the cnbc market wrap. >> hello. ben bernanke speaks and a market rally goes south. the dow closing down about three points. the s&p up marginally. the nasdaq losing eight points. that's it from cnbc. first in business worldwide. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy
suggests that he may be planning to provide some major military hardware to those who are fighti ining assad? >> this is a necessary first step towards that. it's an incremental development and one that was not unexpected to occur. it doesn't do anything by itself. but it seems to be heading that that direction as a political matter at least. i think it removes the accusation that the president's leading from behind. because he has now at least caught up with the european allies. so it...
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it could be yet another negotiating point by president bashar al assad or in the view of the white house, it might just be another act of desperation. listen. >> if true, this would be the latest desperate act from a regime that has shown utter disregard for innocent life, utter disregard for the lives of its own citizens. again, the idea that the syrian regime would launch missiles within its borders at its own people is stunning, desperate, and a completely disproportionate military escalation. >> one of the concerns about the scuds is that they are capable of being armed with chemical weapons bearing warheads, although we understand there is no indication whatsoever that the six or so that have been fired were carrying such weapons, shep. >> shepard: is the formal recognition of this opposition group designed to separate the moderates from the extremists? >> yeah. that was certainly the message being sent by u.s. representatives that this meeting of the friends of syria. the undersecretary of state was leading the u.s. delegation in the absence of secretary of state hillary clinton, w
it could be yet another negotiating point by president bashar al assad or in the view of the white house, it might just be another act of desperation. listen. >> if true, this would be the latest desperate act from a regime that has shown utter disregard for innocent life, utter disregard for the lives of its own citizens. again, the idea that the syrian regime would launch missiles within its borders at its own people is stunning, desperate, and a completely disproportionate military...
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that the people get behind syria and end assad's regime and entitlement form so we can keep this country from becoming greece. >> thank you so much. the three amigos you are sadly about to become the two amigos but i suspect the friendship will continue. >> forever. >> thank you very much for joining me. i love the holidays. and with my bankamericard cash rewards credit card, i love 'em even more. i earn 1% cash back everywhere, every time. 2% on groceries. 3% on gas....